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ESP '08 Trash Talk Thread - aka - Camaro > Mustang
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Mike Burns
Thu May 03, 2012 - 02:47PM
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Chris longs for a Camaro in ESP..... I think the ESP crowd 'brings it'!


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Chris Scafero
Thu May 03, 2012 - 03:40PM

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I do actually, sort of. It would be fun to build an ESP Camaro, but that would go against my current plan for my next car. The money vaccuum of building an SP car isn't real attractive to me right now, just the end result is.

If I did do an ESP Camaro though, I'd have a hard time deciding between an early '70's car (because it would be cool, and have a bit of parts compatibility to my Vette) or one of the early SLP SS fourth gen cars (more competitive). I didn't care for the front end makeover the fourth gen got ~halfway through the model run. I'll confess, I've browsed ebay and craigslist looking at Camaros from time to time.

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Mohammad
Thu May 03, 2012 - 03:43PM

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Chris Scafero wrote ...
If I did do an ESP Camaro though, I'd have a hard time deciding between an early '70's car (because it would be cool, and have a bit of parts compatibility to my Vette) or one of the early SLP SS fourth gen cars (more competitive). I didn't care for the front end makeover the fourth gen got ~halfway through the model run.


Yep, that was my primary reason for getting an LT1 car and not the LS1 models.  I'll wind up in ESP sooner or later... once I have a bit more seat time and cash!

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Bryans Driving
Thu May 03, 2012 - 04:35PM
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I'll stick to CP. There's nothing like showing up to a clients location in a Camaro with a Rollcage and no interior.

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Jason Kolk
Fri May 04, 2012 - 10:35AM

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Chris, there's nothing to gain in ESP with a 4th gen SS over a Z28. The hood isn't functional and the interior (leather) is heavier. You could always buy the end of someone else's money drain for less than they had into it.

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Boss002
Fri May 04, 2012 - 12:47PM

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11 entries into ESP without the PRO's wow, biggest ESP class i've been in. I didn't realize the newer style STi's were ESP cars?

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Medicine Man
Fri May 04, 2012 - 12:55PM

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Boss002 wrote ...
11 entries into ESP without the PRO's wow, biggest ESP class i've been in. I didn't realize the newer style STi's were ESP cars?


Two of us are space fillers, car isn't even built to FS standards winnar.gif

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Adam Jacobs
Fri May 04, 2012 - 12:58PM

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Boss002 wrote ...
11 entries into ESP without the PRO's wow, biggest ESP class i've been in. I didn't realize the newer style STi's were ESP cars?



The two STIs are ASP.  They will most likely get moved at the event.

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Matt Luckow
Fri May 04, 2012 - 03:06PM

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Adam Jacobs wrote ...



The two STIs are ASP.  They will most likely get moved at the event.


If they're not on R-comps, perhaps they should be steered towards TSM.

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Boss002
Fri May 04, 2012 - 05:25PM

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Yea I'm sure they would love tsm with that car

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The Nut
Sat May 05, 2012 - 08:23AM
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Watch out for the slow f125 guys in esp.
This will be fun!
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Z Mojo
Sat May 05, 2012 - 09:12AM

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Jason Kolk wrote ...
Chris, there's nothing to gain in ESP with a 4th gen SS over a Z28. The hood isn't functional and the interior (leather) is heavier. You could always buy the end of someone else's money drain for less than they had into it.


Jason, are you hinting at something here? icon_idea.gif

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Z Mojo
Sat May 05, 2012 - 09:24AM

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Missy and I are running on old tires (Burns reset) and the Z is underpowered (Kevin reset from 2010) plus the sun was in my eyes and a dog ran out in front of me....and this isn't the best alignment I like for my unique and fast driving style....plus I don't run well on the north lot of the Silverdome because of the magnetism of the north pole plays with my variable valve solenoid and I can't enter VTEC mode where I would like.  And I bogged the launch on my 3rd run which would have been my fastest too...if not for the bog and the cone I hit......

Just kidding, the Z is locked, cocked and ready to rock!  59 runs on the Hoosiers, so no excuses there.  Had to drive it all week on the street to season the front rotors and burnish the rear pads, the extra 12lbs of rotating weight removed isn't hurting.  I was surprised that the car has a little get up, it's been getting faster with more miles on the engine.  And the Bilstiens Marcus hooked up are outstanding on the street and even better on the track. 

I am going to drive a little less conservatively this season, I was watching some video of Strano and it has inspired me to push the car more.....who knows how it will turn out.....lucky for me, my brain resides in the body of the best driver, so it's a good platform to start with.

Good Luck Sunday.

Sincerely your friend,
Mr. Coldsteel

[ Edited Sat May 05, 2012 - 09:25AM ]

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The Nut
Sat May 05, 2012 - 06:09PM
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RIGHT mr.coldstale, What ever.
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Boss002
Sat May 05, 2012 - 11:25PM

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lol Mr. Coldsteel eh? ok goal for tomorrow get at least mid pack ESP, my friend... operation don't get DFL

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